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Talmudic Discourse 24: how to make New years resolutions stick...Jewishly
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Talmudic Discourse 23
by tshafer3661
So is it time for ML Baseball to go the way of pro wrestling? Could happen
I guess if the sport continues to be money and ratings driven.
I remember "rasslin' " from the early days on TV in the mid 50's. Gorgeous
George and Haystacks Calhoun. Back in those days they actually used to know
each other around to decide who won. Of course, they had their show stuff
but when they bashed one another on the back with a chair it was real
chair.
I made a friend a few years ago who "rassled" on the minor league circuit in
the Deep South. He assures me there was some improvisation of showy moves
but no choreographed bouts. He recalls vividly getting the stew knocked out
of him in several bouts he lost.
Nowadays there is total choreography of the bout. It starts out week before
with mock tussling and arguments between the fighters, carefully scripted to
enrage the fans. This is where the villain gets especially villainous and
die hard fans fear he will truly defeat their champion of truth, love and
the American way. It build to a crescendo where they do fight in the ring
sort of. Actually they stomp beside the other guy's head and break balsa
wood chairs on each other's back. And they practice the bouts before hand
so all the carefully panned moves including the pin for final victory come
off perfectly.
Now these guys are finely tuned athletes. They look like big muscle bound
men but actually are very talented gymnasts and actors. Nothing as hard to
play as a fight scene. It is just they are no longer competitors because
the final victor is determined before the bout by management as the outcome
best designed to keep the fans flared up and increase attendance and viewing
at the rematch bout.
Of course, the pro wrestlers use steroids too, lots of them. They feel they
need to get that massive physique. A cop friend of mine once told me if you
want to go where the action is in a case, follow the money and the drugs.
Good advice in life I am sad to say.
An interesting part of the discussion appeared in an editorial on sports
medicine in the Journal of the American Medical Association a few years
back. The author pointed out that steroids really have minimal anabolic
intracellular muscle building effect unless your client had a low level in
the first place. A high level can cause growth of things like brain tumors
and liver nodules but the determinant of muscle growth is how much the
muscle is stressed and worked.
Steroids do make the athletes more aggressive so they tend to do more and
faster reps when they work out, leading to muscle growth. However the JAMA
author pointed out that you can accomplish the same thing with a good
trainer who pushes you beyond your self perceived limits. And this is
without the danger of medical problems down the road or more immediate
danger of injury due to excessive exertion.
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Talmudic Discourse (Jewish Business Ethics)
Rabbi Judith
baseball leave us feeling disgusted? Disappointed? Disillusioned? Certainly
we feel a sense of loss regarding the honor and traditions that are so much
a part of baseball and its history.
So, how can we frame this experience? Quite easily. If major league
baseball is to be a legitimate sport something more than professional
wrestling ,then we should hold it to the standards that Judaism sets for
every single one of us in our businesses: absolute honesty.
Rabbinic literature teaches us that we are required to be absolutely hone
st in our business dealings. We may not mix two kinds of produce, even if the
3:26//Sifre Deuteronomy 295)
Indeed, the very first question each person (not just Jews) will be asked
after they die and are facing judgment is, Were you honest in business
?
(Bavli Shabbat 31a). It doesn't get much more basic than that.
I understand the temptation on the part of the players to achieve better
statistics. I understand the management desire to put on a better
show that leads to higher revenues. We always struggle with our urges to have
more. But that the point, we struggle with these urges.
We need the Evil Inclination to urge us to achieve, but it cannot rule us:
to them. God said to the sages: If you kill the Evil Inclination, the world
will fail. They imprisoned the Evil Inclination for three days, then looked
in the whole Land of Israel for a fresh egg and could not find one.
Thereupon they said: What shall we do? If we kill him, the whole world
would fail. They put out his eyes and let him go. (Bavli Yoma 69b)
Perhaps the Evil Inclination was simply allowed to grow too strong. So here
is the way back: we make ourselves stronger than the Evil Inclination
again. We remember who the true hero is. The true hero is the one who
masters his or her Evil Impulse (Pirkei Avot 4:1). We remember the high
level of honesty demanded of us and come back to it feat of strength
that can only be accomplished through strength of will and spirit, not drugs.
And through this exercise of will, we will be able to repair this situation and
baseball can return to its home in our hearts.
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Talmudic Discourse 21 Hanukah-Women
Off the top of my head, I seem to remember a woman who has seven sons die
during the Maccabbean rebellion. Anyone else remember her?
The Ballad of Hannah and her Seven Sons tells a story well known from the Apocrypha II Maccabees 6:12-17. During the persecution of the Jews in Syria at the time of Antiochus Epiphanes (d. 163 B.C.E.), the seven sons of Hannah were commanded to worship an idol. Each refused, and each in turn was slaughtered. The Babylonian Talmud Gittin 57b sets the story in the time of "Caesar," that is, at the time of the destruction of the second temple in 70 C.E. The ballad follows the medieval version of Jossipon in its account of the mother's death. The Judeo-Arabic ballad based on this story appears to have been very popular, and like so many of its type, is "known only in its variants." It is found throughout the eastern dialect area extending from Libya to Iraq, and the western dialect area has a different ballad on the same theme. In the past century or so, the eastern ballad has been printed in such far-flung spots as Calcutta, Bagdad, Aden, Tiberias, Leghorn, Tripoli and Tunis. The version translated here is that printed in Tunis in 1910 by Mardochée Uzan and brother, and sold by him at his "modern bookstore" in Rue Sidi Mardoum, Tunis. At that time Tunis had a large Jewish population, perhaps as much as one third of the inhabitants of the city.
The ballad is chanted on the Fast of the Ninth of Ab, which commemorates the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem on two occasions. On that day, Jewish tradition dictates that only sad and depressing materials may be read, and this includes this ballad which fosters the frame of mind suitable for the occasion.
In the Tunis version given here, Nebuchadnezzar is named as the tyrant. Other versions follow the Talmud and refer to "Caesar." Tradition places this at Hanukah time, as it is in the book of Maccabees and the heroine is named Hannah. This is the eastern version which seems to have reached as far west as Tunis. Its language is somewhat adapted to the Tunisian dialect, but it is probably Iraqi in origin.
In form the poem is a zejel, a kind of poetry brought to its flower by the Spanish Arabic poet Muhammad ibn `Abd al-Malik ibn Quzman, who died in 1160. Characteristic of the zejel is its colloquial language, as well as a typical rhyming scheme: aaab cccb dddb where b rhymes with a constantly recurring refrain of one or two lines. In the version given here the number of syllables per line varies greatly. The strophe has four or five lines. After each strophe the refrain It is proper for us … is repeated.
The poem possesses a pathos which is simple yet compelling, and is somehow not marred by such illogicalities as Hannah's suffering in silence, although she is always talking, and the precociousness of a three year old who demolishes the king's ideology. There is constant contrast between the gruesome physical sufferings of the sons, and the mental anguish of the mother, and there is no doubt that the mother suffers more. Impressive too is the unshakeable faith of the martyrs, who never doubt the justice of God, the rightness of their cause, or the certainty of their reward.
The Ballad of Hannah and her Seven Sons
I am Hannah. Listen to my speech, and look what happened to me.
I had seven sons, whom I cherished and honored and pampered.
Among them was a baby whose face brightened the night.
But they fell into the unbeliever's hands who feared not Almighty God.
It is proper for us to weep all our nights and days! Nebuchadnezzar spoke gently to them and said: "Worship my idol.
Come forward the eldest, intelligent Jew.
Worship my idol, and you will not be slaughtered and laid low.
Listen not to what others say and disobey not my intent,
For if you disobey, woe to you. You will fall like a bird from the sky.
It is proper for us etc. He answered him scornfully: "Listen, king,
I worship only God, creator of mankind.
You are nothing by comparison, for soon you will be in the dust.
Your idol does not profit, nor money, nor images."
He said: "Kill the unbeliever by my leave and on my responsibility."
It is proper for us etc. They grabbed and held the poor man, and tied his hands behind him.
They pulled off his clothes, and threw him into a pit.
They brought his mother to see his severe torture.
He cried out: "Mother, have pity on me by enduring,
For where is the love we bore, Mother who pampered me?"
It is proper for us etc. They brought the second one weeping, his tears running like a flood,
But his heart was strong in the Lord, creator of mankind.
Four men grabbed him, and dragged him to the king.
He said to him: "My child, obey me, get up, worship the image.
Do not listen to what other people tell you."
It is proper for us etc. He answered him: "King, do not prolong your speech.
What are you, you miserable man, and what is your status?
Soon you will perish, and your affairs will be in disarray.
He will destroy all your wealth, and make nothing of your officers."
He said: "Kill the unbeliever, and do not annul my words."
It is proper for us etc. They took the boy, and slaughtered him in his mother's presence.
She cried: "My child" and pressed him to her bosom.
She threw herself upon him, and wallowed in his blood.
She found no one to be close to her and exhort her to patience in her trouble.
"Be sad for me and dwell on my trouble and grief."
It is proper for us etc. They brought the third handcuffed, and his tears were flowing.
He said to him: "My child, obey me in a single matter.
Arise, worship my idol and your days will be long.
We shall raise you to high rank, and give you great power.
If you hear and obey me you will be exalted over all my servants."
It is proper for us etc. He answered him with fine speech. "Pay attention and listen.
Your idol is the work of man. He has ears and does not hear.
He has a nose and does not smell, eyes and does not see.
He has hands and does not grasp, feet and does not walk.
You are like your idol, you ignorant unbeliever."
It is proper for us etc. He condemned him to death and said: "Bring a firebrand.
Take him and torture him, roast and fry his flesh.
He disobeys my religion, he constantly speaks arrogantly.
He despises my idol and mocks my deeds.
Bring his blood to me in haste, hurry up and do not delay."
It is proper for us etc.. They took the poor fellow, mutilated him, and stripped the skin from his head.
They cut off his hands and feet, and threw him next to his brothers.
His mother saw it with her eyes when they drew out his insides.
She could not say a word, but her soul was with his soul.
She wept and cried and said: "Oh, my babies."
It is proper for us etc. They brought the fourth, poor fellow, apprehensive, heart-broken.
He said to him: "My child, obey me, do not disobey my order.
See what your brothers have become, lying unburied.
Obey me, listen to me, and you will escape and get great riches.
I will build you high castles if you do not oppose my will."
It is proper for us etc. The boy spoke up and said to the king: "O tyrant,
We accept upon us the judgment of God, and all of us will die by your sentence.
On account of our sins he has caused this, and cast us before you.
We accept it and will not obey you, and will not serve your images.
We shall worship only our God, who is honored above the mighty."
It is proper for us etc.. The king gnashed his teeth and said: "Kill him speedily with an ugly death."
They slaughtered him in his mother's presence, but she was obedient to God.
They slaughtered the child in her presence, while she suffered in silence.
She looked at him, and was distressed, and said: "Oh, my babies."
It is proper for us etc.. They brought the fifth and he cried in distress:
"Mother, accept God's judgment and do not oppose his decision.
Though he destroy a thousand of us, we will not worship in his manner.
Let God judge as he pleases in all matters."
It is proper for us etc. They stood the child before him, and he said to him:"My child, I inform you
That my idol will profit you and save you from your anxieties."
He answered him thus: "Do not rely on your images.
Soon you will die and pass away, you and all your counsellors,
You are like your idols, soon you will be burned in fire."
It is proper for us etc. The king arose, and stamped his foot and said: "I will not retract."
They took the poor fellow, and tortured him, so that all his flesh felt pain.
In great torture, poor fellow, two days he agonized,
Stretched out two whole days and nights in the sun.
It is proper for us etc. Then they brought the sixth, shackled with iron chains.
And when he saw the idol, his face changed.
He said to him: "O unbeliever, do not speak much to me, but do not overlook what I say.
Kill me quickly. The Lord will take vengeance on you.
I will die rather than disobey the command of God Most High."
It is proper for us etc. The king spoke up and said: "Kill him, and let his mother see."
They slit his throat from ear to ear, and the tears flowed from her eyes.
And she cried out and wept, and her heart could not bear it.
And she cried out and wept and said: "My babies."
It is proper for us etc.. They brought the seventh, poor child, who was only three years old,
And he wept with flowing tears and said: "O master of the worlds!"
His mother bent down behind him and cried in a pleading voice:
"Do not obey them, my precious. Do not let them persuade you against what I say."
It is proper for us etc.. "Arise, young man. Hear and be obedient to my words.
Do not disobey my command and reject my idol and my images.
I shall make your rank high, and make you a leader.
A minister of the realm, a minister of state, you will be chief of my counsellors.
Everything will be yours, prosperity and wealth."
It is proper for us etc. He answered him: "O evil-doer, you are afraid of created things,
And forsake God Most High, living and existing, who is all-powerful.
How can you tell me to worship your images made of wood from the street?
A pity for your intelligence. You have taken leave of your senses."
It is proper for us etc. And he said: "O child, obey me in what I tell you.
I shall put down my ring among the soldiers, next to the idol, I shall throw it down for you.
Stoop and give it back to me, and repeat it twice.
Tell your mother to worship my idol, and you will not be killed or harmed.
Your brothers would be glad, since you are the youngest of all."
It is proper for us etc.. And the king said to the servants: "Bring Hannah before me."
"O Hannah, urge your child to do obeisance to my images.
And we shall make him chief minister, he will be chief of my counselors.
You shall live, your child shall live, only do not disobey my words.
Hannah, tell your child to listen to my commands."
It is proper for us etc. She gave answer to the king: "Include me with my children."
"Precious, do not obey them, my breath, my life,
Look how you were nine months in my womb, my child,
I brought you up and reared you and fed you in my house
Day and night, year after year."
It is proper for us etc. He answered her: "Mother, let me go to them.
Let them do what they want, and what their heart desires.
I am more precious to you than my brothers, so is my death than theirs.
I worship none save one God who is exalted over all others."
It is proper for us etc. She clasped him to her breast, and wept and said:
"My child, my little one, accept the decree of your Lord.
Your place in paradise with all your forefathers is assured.
Our God will judge Nebuchadnezzar, and punish him severely."
It is proper for us etc. They took him from her, and she wept and said: "My little one,
What are my sins, what my deeds, what my behavior?
My Lord has left me neither oldest nor youngest.
Fate has deprive me of them and taken my babies from me."
It is proper for us etc. They slaughtered him in her presence, and she saw it with her eyes.
She fell upon him, and stamped her foot, and her spirit went up to God.
She died for what she underwent, and what happened to her children.
Praise be to Him who desired this. To him is the command and the action.
It is proper for us etc.A voice went out from Heaven: "Happy are you, Hannah,
Paradise is open to you and your seven sons."
Soon he will build our sanctuary, and we shall dwell in it as we were.
All our enemies will perish, and he will pity all our people.
Elijah will come with good news with Messiah, son of David!
It is proper for us to rejoice all our nights and days!Judith's story is also linked with Hanukah.Once Hanukkah festivities included the celebration of two heroes—Judah Maccabee and Judith. Although for several centuries the Rabbis included Judith in their Hanukkah narratives, her story, recorded in the Book of Judith, never made it into the canonized Bible. The Book of Judith promised that her "praise will never depart from the heart of those who remember the power of God," and she acted with a certainty that her legacy would "go down through all generations of our descendants." Neither she nor her contemporaries could have imagined a time when her story, as a story of courage in the face of enormous risks, would cease to be part of the story of the Jewish people passed from one generation to the next.
And yet today, Judith's story is a little-known part of the Hanukkah narrative. Who was she? What is her significance to us today?
In the second century B.C.E., as the powerful Assyrian army invades the Near East, the town of Bethulia is besieged by the cruel and domineering Holofernes, foremost general of the Assyrians . If Bethulia yields, the whole country will fall into Assyrian hands. Discouraged, the city's elders agree to surrender the famine-stricken city if they are not rescued within a few days. Judith, a young widow and most unlikely savior, challenges them to take responsibility for the future of their community. She enters the Assyrian camp where Holofernes, smitten with her remarkable beauty, invites her to a banquet. Judith, was a daughter of the Hasmoneans. She fed cheese to the leader of the enemies of the Jews. He was made thirsty by the cheese and began to drink much wine. When he grew quite drunk she cut off his head. For this reason, it was said, Jews eat cheese delicacies on Hanukkah With the Assyrian army thrown into confusion, Judith inspires the Israelites to launch a surprise attack from which they emerge victorious.
Behind every successful man, there is a strong patient guiding woman, and a surprised mother-in-law.
Many blessings,
Rabbi Dr. Arthur Segal
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Judy:
You're reading through romanticizing eyes. R. Zera was on the road a
lot...a latter day road warrior traveling between Israel and Babylonia...she
was obligated.
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Judy:
How is it extemporaneous?
Judy:
Please...you dont really agree with Rambam here do you? That on the whole, women are more spiritual, so they can do housework?!? GOSH NO RABBI JUDY. BUT UNTIL THE RAMBAM, FOR AT LEAST 1500 YEARS, JEWISH WOMEN WERE TOLD THEY WERE LIGHTING SHABBAT CANDLES TO MAKE UP FOR THE SIN OF EVE.
The Talmud contains quotes that may be seen as both laudatory and derogatory of women. The Talmud states that:
- Ten measures of speech descended to the world; women took nine Kiddushin 49b
- Women are "light on raw knowledge" — i.e. they possess more intuition Shabbat 33b (our dafs this week)
- A man without a wife lives without joy, blessing, and good; a man should love his wife as himself and respect her more than himself Yevamot 62b
- When Rav Joseph heard his mother's footsteps he would say: "Let me arise before the approach of the Skenhinah ('divine presence')" (Kiddushin 31b)
- Israel was redeemed from Egypt by virtue of its righteous women (Sotah 11b)
- A man must be careful never to speak slightingly to his wife because women are prone to tears and sensitive to wrong (Bava Metzia 59b)
- Women have greater faith than men (Sifre # 133)
- Women have greater powers of discernment (Niddah 45b)
- Women are especially tenderhearted (Megillah 14b)
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Talmudic Discourse 18
wayside?
how it goes ACTUALLY, RABBI ABRAMS, SADLY, I GET TO SAY THIS PRAYER, LESS AND LESS. JEWISH HOMES I WENT TO THIS WEEK, HAVE XMAS TREES, AND UNLIT CHANUKEAHS, IF THERE WAS A CHANUKEAH AT ALL. PERHAPS I SHOULD NOT CALL THEM JEWISH HOMES AS A RARELY SEE MEZUZOTH ON DOOR POSTS AS WELL. I END UP KISSING BARE WOOD.
1. What do you think of women being bound to do this mitzvah?
undermine the whole women dont do time-bound, positive mitsvot idea?
you think of other examples?
Happy Hannukkah! THANK YOU, AND TO YOU AND YOURS AS WELL. MANY BLESSINGS, RABBI DR ARTHUR SEGAL
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The Talmud tackles this verse by contrasting it with the Almighty's instruction to Joshua: This book of the Torah shall not depart from your mouth (Joshua 1:8). From the directive to Joshua, we might conclude that we may never cease studying Torah. If this were the case, a person would be precluded from earning a livelihood. The promise of gathering produce teaches us that the all-encompassing obligation to study Torah retreats before the responsibility of gainfully employment.
One commentator explains that those who study Torah while relying on others to provide sustenance will eventually abandon their Torah study (Rashi, 11th century, France). Indeed, elsewhere our Sages teach that Torah which is not combined with work ultimately comes to naught and leads to sin (M. Avot 2:2). Torah study and earning a livelihood form a relationship which can be described as commensalism, where Torah derives benefit from work without adversely affecting it. To ensure that this book of the Torah shall not depart from our mouth, the Almighty tells us that we will gather our grain, our wine and our oil.
The approach of Torah and labor rendered by Rabbi Yishmael is juxtaposed with an opposing view, that of Rabbi Shimon ben Yohai: "If a person plows at the time of plowing, and sows at the time of sowing, and harvests at the time of harvesting, and threshes at the time of threshing, and winnows at the time when the wind blows - what will become of Torah?" Rabbi Shimon ben Yohai was concerned that if people were so busy earning a livelihood, this preoccupation with worldly matters would prevent Torah study. The relationship between Torah and labor can only be described as parasitical, for work preys on every moment of the day and relegates the pursuit of Torah to an unrealized ideal.
Rabbi Shimon ben Yohai therefore suggested a different modus operandi: "When Israel do the will of God, their work is done for them by others and indeed Torah need not depart from their mouths." This is indicated in the prophetic verse: "And strangers will arise and shepherd your flocks" (Isaiah 61:5).
Conversely, "when Israel do not do the will of the Almighty, their work must be done by themselves" and thus you will gather your grain, your wine and your oil. Moreover, Israel will do the work of others, as per the biblically described punishment "and you will serve your enemies" (Deuteronomy 28:48).
This model was practically applied by Rabbi Shimon ben Yohai during his years of hiding in a cave from the Roman authorities (B. Shabbat 33b). As he and his son sat buried to their necks in sand and solely occupied themselves with Torah study, water and carob sustenance was miraculously provided for them.
Thus our Sages suggest two conflicting models of the relationship between Torah and labor. According to one approach, earning a livelihood facilitates Torah study and both should be pursued. According to the other, working comes at the expense of Torah study and therefore should not be considered.
Fast forwarding a number of generations and moving to Babylon, the Talmud records two responses to this argument. The first response of Abbaye is an observation: "Many did as Rabbi Yishmael advocated - combining Torah study with work - and were successful; others did as Rabbi Shimon ben Yohai suggested and they were not successful."
The second response is Rava's entreaty to his disciples: "I beg of you, during the days of Nisan - when the grain is harvested - and the days of Tishrei - when the grapes and olives are pressed - do not appear before me so that you will not be preoccupied with your sustenance the entire year."
It would appear that the Talmud concludes in favor of the commensal approach promoted by Rabbi Yishmael. A thought must be spared, however, for uninterrupted study and total devotion to plumbing the scholarly depths of a discipline without financial burden. In many institutes of higher learning, scholarships are awarded with the goal of providing the student with an environment free of fiscal stress and strain. The hope is that students freed from economic concerns will be able to reach greater heights of scholarship, thus contributing to our society.
In this vein, later commentators focus on the exact formulation of Abbaye's observation: Rabbi Shimon ben Yohai's course was not fruitful for the many who tried to walk that path. Yet for a chosen few this route is certainly advocated, and from the standpoint of society we desire individuals who can totally devote themselves to scholarship. Of course this approach is not appropriate for all; it is a path that should be open only to suitable candidates.
Such people should be able to follow in the footsteps of Rabbi Shimon ben Yohai, removing themselves from this-worldly pursuits and devoting their entire beings to fathoming the depths of our tradition and unraveling its mysteries. The majority of people, however, are encouraged to see their labor as a necessary and desirable tool for Torah study.
Rabbi Yishmael may not have been describing a relationship of commensalism. While the commentators explain that work can benefit Torah study, Torah should also positively impact work. In a poetic formulation, our Sages declared: "If there is no flour, there is no Torah; if there is no Torah, there is no flour" (M. Avot 3:17), thus describing a symbiosis between Torah and earning a livelihood, where mutual benefit is derived from the association between Torah and labor.
Simply put, as the Chasidem, taught, all acts that we do each day should be aligned with God's will, and then all our acts become Holy, so even when Tevah milks his cow, in the Shalom Aleichem stories, he blesses God for creating such a creature.
Happy Thanks Giving:
Dr. Arthur Segal
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1. New Study Materials: The California Fires, Katrina and Two Prayers to Say
At such times, sometimes our only
option is prayer. The Talmud, naturally, gives us an example of what
prayers we might offer at such a time:
Our Rabbis taught: Once all Israel went up on pilgrimage to Jerusalem, an=
d
they did not have water to drink. Nakdimon ben Guryon approached a certai=
n
governor, [and] said to him: Lend me twelve wells of water for the pilgri=
ms,
and I will give you twelve wells of water. And if I do not give [them] to
you, I will give you twelve talents of silver. And he set a time for him.
When the time arrived and the rain had not fallen, he sent to him in the
morning: Send me either the water or the money you owe me. He sent to him=
: I
still have time, [for] the entire day is mine.
At midday he sent to him: Send me either the water or the money that you =
owe
me. He sent to him: I still have time left in the day.
In the afternoon he sent to him: Send me the water or the money that you =
owe
me. He sent to him: I still have time left in the day. That governor snee=
red
at him [and] said: All year long rains have not fallen, and rains will fa=
ll
now? He entered the bathhouse joyfully.
As the lord entered the bathhouse joyfully, Nakdimon entered the Temple i=
n
sadness. He wrapped himself and stood in prayer. He said before Him: Mast=
er
of the Universe! It is revealed and known before You that I did not do
[this] for my [own] honor, nor did I do [it] for the honor of my father's
house. Rather, I did [it] for Your honor, so that water would be availabl=
e
for the pilgrims. Immediately the sky became covered with clouds and rain
fell until the twelve wells filled and overflowed.
As the lord left the bathhouse, Nakdimon ben Guryon left the Temple. When
they met each other, he said to him: Give me the money for the extra wate=
r
which you owe me. He said to him: I know that the Holy One blessed be He,
did not shake His world except on account of you. But I still have a clai=
m
against you that I may collect me money from you, for the sun has already
set and the rains fell in my possession.
He went back and entered the Temple, wrapped himself and stood in prayer,
and said before Him: Master of the Universe! Make it known that You have
loved ones in Your world. Immediately the clouds dispersed and the sun
shone. At that time the lord said to him: If the sun had not broken throu=
gh,
I would have had a claim against you that I could have collected my money
from you [but now, I cannot]. (B. Taanit 19b-20a)
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I love this story about Nakdimon ben Gurion for so many reasons. In the
present crisis, it=B9s a great example of leadership and proper prayer.
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Discussion Questions
1. Nakdimon first supplies what is needed, then he prays. How can we use
this as a model for acting in a crisis?
2. Nakdimon=B9s second prayer is most poignant. He does not ask for anyt=
hing
in specific=8Ahe can=B9t, as he is asking for something for himself and t=
hat
seems to go against his personal principles. Again, how can we use his
prayer as a model for prayer when we want to ask something of God but don=
=B9t
want to seem selfish?
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May the winds die down and the rains come soon!
Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.
Talmudic Discourse 15
YESHUA (Summaries in italics) | TALMUD (Summaries in italics) |
The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. - Mark 2:27 | Rabbi Jonathan ben Joseph said: For it is holy unto you; I.e., it [the Sabbath] is committed to your hands, not you to its hands. - Talmud: Yoma 85b |
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. - Matthew 25:45 | One who betrays his fellow, it is as if he has betrayed God. - Tosefta Sh'vuot, ch. 3 |
Insulting someone is like murder.- Matthew 5:21-22 | He who publicly shames his neighbour is as though he shed blood.- Talmud: Bava Mezia 58b |
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. - Matthew 5:28 | One who gazes lustfully upon the small finger of a married woman, it is as if he has committed adultery with her.- |
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. - Matthew 5:45 | Rabbi Abbahu said: The day when rain fails is greater than [the day of] the Revival of the Dead, for the Revival of the Dead is for the righteous only whereas rain is both for the righteous and for the wicked - Talmud: Taanit 7a |
Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. - Matthew 6:1 | In the case of the recital of the Shema', since everybody else recites, and he also recites, it does not look like showing off on his part; but in the case of the month of Ab, since everybody else does work and he does no work, it looks like showing off.- Talmud: Berachot 17b |
But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth. - Matthew 6:3 | What kind of charity is that which delivers a man from an unnatural death? When a man gives without knowing to whom he gives. and the beggar receives without knowing from whom he receives. - Talmud: Bava Batra 10a - 10b |
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.- Matthew 6:7 | If one draws out his prayer and expects therefore its fulfillment, he will in the end suffer vexation of heart, as it says, Hope deferred maketh the heart sick. - Talmud: Berachot 55a |
Do not worry about where your food will come from tomorrow, or your drink. - Matthew 6:25-31 | Rabbi Eliezer the Great declares: Whoever has a piece of bread in his basket and Says. 'What shall I eat tomorrow?' belongs only to them who are little in faith. - Talmud: Sotah 48b |
Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. - Matthew 6:34 | A parable: [They were] like a man who was kept in prison and people told him: Tomorrow, they will release you from the prison and give you plenty of money. And he answered them: I pray of you, let me go free today and I shall ask nothing more! - Talmud: Berachot 9b |
Let your Yes be Yes and your No be No. - Matthew 5:34-37 | A righteous yes is a Yes; a righteous no is No. - Talmud: Bava Batra 49b Let your yes be yes, and your no be no. --R. Abaye, Baba Metzia 49a |
At that time Yeshua answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. - Matthew 11:25 | Rabbi Johanan said: Since the Temple was destroyed, prophecy has been taken from prophets and given to fools and children. - Talmud: Bava Batra 12b |
And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. - Matthew 5:29-30 | Come and hear what was taught: Rabbi Tarfon said, 'If his hand touched the membrum let his hand be cut off upon his belly'. 'But', they said to him, 'would not his belly be split'? 'It is preferable', he replied, 'that his belly shall be split rather than that he should go down into the pit of destruction'. - Talmud: Niddah 13b |
But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Mashiach; and all ye are brethren. - Matthew 23:8 | Shemaiah used to say: love work, hate acting the superior, and do not bring thyself to the knowledge of the ruling authority. - Mishnah: Avot 1:10 |
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. - Matthew 24:44 | Even as R. Zera, who, whenever he chanced upon scholars engaged thereon [I.e., in calculating the time of the Mashiach's coming], would say to them: I beg of you, do not postpone it, for it has been taught: Three come unawares: Mashiach, a found article and a scorpion. - Talmud: Sanhedrin 97a |
Yeshua taught in a parable that they can please the king (God) by pleasing one another. - Matthew 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. - Matthew 25:40 | Rabbi simeon said: if three have eaten at one table and have not spoken thereat words of torah, [it is] as if they had eaten sacrifices [offered] to the dead, for [of such persons] it is said, for all tables are full of filthy vomit, [they are] without the All-Present. But, if three have eaten at one table, and have spoken thereat words of torah, [it is] as if they had eaten at the table of the All-Present, blessed be he, as it is said, this is the table before HaShem. - Mishnah: Avot 3:3 |
Love your enemy. - Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; - Matthew 5:43 | They who are insulted but insult not back; who hear themselves reproached but answer not; who serve out of love and rejoice in their affliction--of them it is written in Scripture: They that love God are as the going forth of the sun in its might. - Talmud: Yoma 23a, Gitin 36b, Shabat 88b |
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. - Matthew 22:23-30 | There will be no marital union in the world to come. - Ma'asrot 4:5-6 |
Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath aught against thee; Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. - Matthew 5:23-24 | If a man said, "I will sin and repent, and sin again and repent", he will be given no chance to repent. [If he said,] "I will sin and the Day of Atonement will effect atonement", then the Day of Atonement effects no atonement. For transgressions that are between man and God the Day of Atonement effects atonement, but for transgressions that are between a man and his fellow the Day of Atonement effects atonement only if he has appeased his fellow - Mishnah: Yoma 8:9 |
Matthew 5:45 ... sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. | Talmud, Taanit 7a - God causes it to rain for the wicked as well as for the righteous. |
Matthew 5:43 Love thine neighbor and hate thine enemy | Talmud, Yoma 23a, Gitin 36b, Shabbat 88b - They who are insulted but insult not back; who hear themselves reproached but answer not; who serve out of love and rejoice in their affliction--of them it is written in Scripture: They that love God are as the going forth of the sun in its might. |
Matthew 5:23-24... first be reconciled to thy brother | Talmud, Yoma 85b - Yom Kippur atones for all sins, but first you must reconcile your conflict with others. |
Matthew 6:14-15 For if ye forgive men their trespasses ... | Talmud, Rosh Hashanah 17a - Only if you forgive others will God forgive you. Talmud, Shabat 151b - One who is merciful toward others, God will be merciful toward him |
Matthew 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth ... | |
Matthew 7:1 Do not judge, or you too will be judged ... | Avot 2:14 - Do not judge your fellow until you have been in his place. Avot 4:10 - Do not be a judge of others, for there is no judge but the one (God). |
Matthew 7:2 ... with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again | Mishnah Sotah 1:7 - By a person's standard of measure, is he, too, measured. Shabat 127b - How you judge others, does God judge you. Sanhedrin 100a, attributes to Rabbi Meir the saying: "The measure which one measures will be measured out to him." |
Matthew 7:3-5 Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye ... | Er'chin 16b - Rabbi Tarfon said, "I wonder if there be anyone in this era who will allow himself to be reproved. If someone says to another, 'Cast out the speck that is in your eye!' he will retort, Cast out first the beam that is in your own eye!'" Kidushin 70a - He who condemns others, sees in them his own faults. Bava Mezia 59a - Do not rebuke your fellow with your own blemish. |
Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs | Ketubot. 111a - R. Levi said: "God made |
Matthew 7:12 Do to others what you would have them do to you ... | Shabbat 31a - What is hateful to you, do it not unto others -- this is the entire Torah, and the rest is commentary. |
7:26 every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not ... | Avot 3:17 - One who studies Torah but does not do good deeds is likened to one who builds with a foundation of straw, so that even a minor flow of water will destroy it. |
10:21 ... brother shall deliver up the brother to death | Talmud 49b - In the footsteps of the Mashiach, insolence will increase and honour dwindle; the vine will yield its fruit [abundantly] but wine will be dear; the government will turn to heresy and there will be none [to offer them] reproof; the meeting-place [of scholars] will be used for immorality; galilee will be destroyed, gablan desolated, and the dwellers on the frontier will go about [begging] from place to place without anyone to take pity on them; the wisdom of the learned will degenerate, fearers of sin will be despised, and the truth will be lacking; youths will put old men to shame, the old will stand up in the presence of the young, a son will revile his father, a daughter will rise against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, and a man's enemies will be the members of his household; the face of the generation will be like the face of a dog, a son will not feel ashamed before his father. So upon whom is it for us to rely? Upon our father who is in heaven. |
Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy. --Matthew 5:7 | He who is merciful to others, shall receive mercy from Heaven. - Shabbat 151b |
Freely you receive, freely give. --Matthew 10:8 | Just as I teach gratuituously, so you should teach gratuitously. - Bekoroth 29a |
Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted. --Matthew 23:12 | He who humbles himself for the Torah in this world is magnified in the next; and he who makes himself a servant to the Torah in this world becomes free in the next. - Baba Metzia 85b |
Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the beam that is in your own eye? --Matthew 7:3 | Do they say, take the splinter out of your eye, he will retort: "Remove the beam out of your own eye." Baba Bathra 15b |
The harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few. --Matthew 9.37 | The day is short, and the work is much; and the workmen are indolent, but the reward is much; and the Master of the House is insistent. Avot 2:15 |
| Sifri, Ekev No. 49 - As God is, so shall you be: As God is merciful, so shall you too, be merciful. |
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